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#1 2014-01-31 22:59:53

VMRockShow
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Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

Hey guys, I'm Mike. Here's a short summary...

      I spent all of 2013 in the recording studio. My band released it's first song to the internet in January but I can't go out and perform it at all due to some kind of an injury.

      I had a party and got VERY drunk and was upset about a few things in my life. This made me very destructive and I was apparently screaming. The next day I woke up fine, however, the day after that I woke up hoarse. It's been pretty consistent since then (going on week 3). The thought of vocal nodules severely depressed me and I went to an ENT who found NOTHING. No nodules and no swelling. After that I made an appointment with a voice specialist for this coming Monday.

      I have NO idea what it could be. Singing is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, part of my identity. I feel lost without it in a way that can only be compared to grieving a death. I know this sounds crazy but this is actually how horrible I feel... Anyway, here are my symptom's...

Tingly, dry feeling in throat
Airy voice,
feels strained
Sometimes a little wheezing (I have adult onset asthma but am on medication for it, haven't had any asthma problems in years until this)

     I was on antibiotics in case it was an infection. Finished that a week ago so, needless to say, I wasn't sick.

     If you're interested here's my bands single. My biggest fear is NEVER being able to sing my songs again. The thing i've devoted my whole life to.

https://soundcloud.com/thesemachines/nothing-to-lose

Thanks for your time guys, much love
-Mike

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#2 2014-02-01 12:10:27

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Re: Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

I have problems with my voice too so I know the feeling you are describing, it's not irrational at all.

I'm not a professional, but if your vocal folds are fine then what remains? Perhaps you strained a muscle. I've read about some people here having strained their voices and not being able to sing well for some time but they got better.

Good luck with your doctors appointment

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#3 2014-02-01 17:30:07

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Re: Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

I agree with Sun. While your vocal folds might look okay to a general ENT not specialized in singers, you could have some strained musculature that is inhibiting your fine control.

Your injury sounds similar to something I did, twice. When I got to this forum, I had already been singing a long time. However, at the time, a number of guys were trying to sound like Brian Johnson. And were talking about "false fold distortion." And I tried that. First time, gave myself partial laryngitis or something like it. My voice at the low end sounded like a honk and my high notes sounded like scratchy whistle. Nothing in between. So, I rested for a few weeks and just as my voice was getting better, I tried it again and achieved the same result, again. Scared the bejesus out of myself, twice.

So, a couple of important things for me.

First, the rehab. Over a period of at least two weeks, I would do only descending sirens that started out in what felt like "falsetto" for me. Nor more than 10 minutes at a time, twice a day. No attempts at songs until after two weeks. Even then, it took a while to fully recover my control and tone. So, give yourself a few more weeks, even as you consult another doctor.

Second, and just as important, I quit trying that false fold thingy. Believe it or not, avoiding injury often means avoiding injury by, surprisingly enough, avoiding things that cause injury. Let me copy and paste to repeat that.

"Believe it or not, avoiding injury often means avoiding injury by, surprisingly enough, avoiding things that cause injury."

Granted, other singers who find singing with distortion, rasp, or rattle think I am now lazy and afraid. Call me any name that you want. I will not do again the thing that my voice is not designed to do. As such, by returning to how my voice is meant to work, it is back to the brightness and resiliency of my twenties, which were a while ago.

So, basically, you have to retrain your fine control by using only your fine control. That is, you won't get it back by belting or hollering some more.


"When the daylight is rising up in my eyes ..." - Klaus Meine

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#4 2014-02-01 17:32:37

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Re: Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

Oh yeah, I forgot say why I injured myself twice. Because I thought I was doing the distortion wrong the first time. Well, in reality, I was wrong twice for trying the thing twice. And others might say, well, you did do it wrong. Probably so, and it is not for me, not important enough to "work at it."

So, for you, must come the realization that you have to treat your voice like clasical violinist. Not Pete Townsend with a guitar. But a violinist who owns a stradivarius.


"When the daylight is rising up in my eyes ..." - Klaus Meine

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#5 2014-07-05 07:27:58

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Re: Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

Sorry for late reply... It turned out to be Acid Reflux... My voice has been seesawing between excellent and strained for the past 5 months due to it... I am on acid inhibiters and on a STRICT acid watchers diet.

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#6 2014-07-05 14:15:40

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Re: Drunk Angry Screaming Tirade... Hoarse 3 weeks later? HELP!!!

VMRockShow wrote:

Sorry for late reply... It turned out to be Acid Reflux... My voice has been seesawing between excellent and strained for the past 5 months due to it... I am on acid inhibiters and on a STRICT acid watchers diet.

That's great news, to finally find the problem and a workable remedy for it. And you are not alone. A few people here in the forum have dealt with it. And some more famous singers, like Meatloaf, Brian Johnson. Typically, it strikes caucasian males over 50 years of age but it can actually happen to anyone at any age.


"When the daylight is rising up in my eyes ..." - Klaus Meine

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