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#1 2014-11-25 21:37:50

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Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

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#2 2014-11-26 00:33:21

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Re: Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

Parts of this sounded jumbled.  Watch your diction, most of the time I didn't know what you were saying/singing- which is another thing. A lot of this sounded spoken or just phonated rather than sung. The parts that were sung didn't show much of your voice in terms of range or dynamics. The singing was mostly melodic, but it didn't quite feel like a "song". But in the part of your range that is shown, there is a nice rasp. The folk style you're going for is interesting too, though this doesn't really sound cohesive. I'd want to hear more of your voice with a different song.


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#3 2014-11-26 01:09:49

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Re: Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

Thanks a lot for the input man I appreciate it :), yah I guess I was trying to get a more airy sound similar to the lead singer from Gomez(here's the feeling I was trying to go for, but didn't do very well at haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJJRnuCwF4)
How about this song that I wrote...do you think this better suits me(not the best recording because I recorded really late at night) https://soundcloud.com/aaron-chap/dont-be-strong

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#4 2014-11-26 01:20:59

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Re: Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

It sounds like you are using a similar style to the Gomez song, the only difference is there is more range and dynamics in that song, and it has more musicality. It just makes more sense to the ear and feels more genuine.

The second recording sounds a lot more convincing and melodic. You seemed more connected to the lyric, and it shows in your phrasing and tone. I liked it a lot more. It came together more successfully than the first recording. The first thirty seconds or so and from 1:47 to 2:00 were really nice.


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#5 2014-11-26 01:35:39

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Re: Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

Thanks man I agree the style really works well with Gomez, but it doesn't seem very authentic with me. I guess I need to work on becoming a little more genuine with my singing. Nick Drake's style is my greatest admiration/aspiration for music. I really adore that almost soft, passive method of singing, but I'm not innate or endowed with that kind of voice...I feel my voice is more on the aggressive side, which can clash with what I like to play. So I'm trying to find ways of perhaps softening my voice some or developing both style; however I don't think that's something I can do, because I would be working against what I was born with. I suppose you've been a mirror to me in some regards...I've finally had the opportunity to see myself artistically through someone. Maybe I should stop emulating and just try to become an artist, instead of asking to become one. Anyways here's one of favourite Nick Drake songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze5Bktb2jiQ

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#6 2014-12-10 17:09:10

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Re: Nick Drake Parasite Rendition- Critique :)

Just so you know, I showed your self pinned song to a friend of mine who I know is a Nick Drake fan. She really felt it.

My opinion is this style of singing is maybe not what most 'trained singers' are interested in. I've been helping this same friend learn how to sing, she's just never heard or thought about this 'technique' thing before. It never even entered her mind when she listened to singers. It's just like a pure emotional response unfiltered by any knowledge of what singing is 'supposed' to be.

I still retain my advice to you that if you want to be known in your life time, you should try to write some catchier melody kinds of songs as well, with clearer diction, to draw initial attention to yourself. But, you have a subtle style that could be known in death if rediscovered like Nick Drake. I just don't want you to have to die for people like my friend to hear art like yours. These subtle, lower key emotions are just that, subtle. In a world where auto tune, naked chicks, bright colors, loud explosive sounds, are all overtaking people's senses more and more. It's difficult to catch people's ear.

It was true when Drake was alive and unfortunately it's more true today. It's a fast food, processed within an inch of how much you can process food world, it's a fast life driving world too and from here and there, with huge work weeks, and a fast music world right now. Some people are on speed, ecstacy, on cocaine. And then there is the distraction of technology itself, people are going ADHD. Overstimulated, wanting loud fireworks, big bangs, neon lights, and the subtlety of Mona Lisa's smile when painted by Da Vinci would likely be lost on this culture. Why isn't she naked right?

I don't think your voice is too aggressive personally to convey softness. The roughness and masculinity actually contrasts and sets you apart from someone like Drake, and I think it's the failure to reproduce him that makes you different. I feel like you might consider a little compromise 'some' of the time towards poppier sounds if you want it heard. If it's just your art and audience isn't a big factor. which it didn't seem to be a huge thing to Drake, he was a shut in with mental illness from the sounds of it. He made music, but he barely even had friends, much less was a marketing guru. You got something there, but I think it takes more punch just to get it heard. It's so hard to get art out. How do you catch attention with subtlety, when Lady Gaga is wearing frogs and meat dresses? It's increasingly about attention and as society progresses, it's not just about music, but almost all art forms are increasingly about spectacle. Death is one spectacle people listen to, but I just don't want that for you. If you gotta put some bang in there. Dig deep, see if you can find a way that works.

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