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#1 2012-08-01 17:40:27

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Official Queensryche Cover Thread

I decided that there should be a Queensryche cover thread. I think that most of us love them, so, post some queensryche vocal covers up in here. You too Robert, you know ya wanna. ONLY RULE - only use 1 take. If you make a mistake, realize that we all do and post it anyway.

I'll dive right in and post my second attempt at Jet City Woman. My first was a trainwreck - even tuned down a whole step. This one is porper tuning.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single … p;newref=1

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#2 2012-08-01 18:05:44

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Re: Official Queensryche Cover Thread

Good overall tone and pitch control, bro! The only thing is that you should use a mixed and/or head voice instead of the falsetto. It needs more "meat" to sound brutal and powerful. Anyway, you are a good singer.
PS: What do you mean by "porper" tuning?


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#3 2012-08-01 18:10:06

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My first attempt was tuned down a whole step. This is the same key as the cd.

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#4 2012-08-01 19:31:12

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This is too weird.  I was just driving home and I haven't listened to Queensryche for a long while so I decided to pop in a cd. I played Jet City Woman and sang along. Well "tried."  :D  I can almost sing it I just can't connect the high parts with the rest of the song. This is week three of being sick so high notes just ain't working at all making it even worse.   
But good thread Keith and great job on the song.

 

#5 2012-08-01 21:24:48

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Real good job keith i liked how you get geoffs little nuances. Dont be afraid of the high notes that you got a little light on.  Go through them i think you will find the strength think down dont let go.
awesome job


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#6 2012-08-01 21:47:27

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Re: Official Queensryche Cover Thread

I would be up for this, as I am a huge Queensryche fan. I have another song in mind I have been meaning to record anyway, however, I don't agree with the one rule as I am a perfectionist. And would only post it once I have it down like I want it, plus I do all of my own backup vocals as well. If we can bypass that rule, I would be happy to contribute to this challenge.


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#7 2012-08-01 21:59:43

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slstone wrote:

I would be up for this, as I am a huge Queensryche fan. I have another song in mind I have been meaning to record anyway, however, I don't agree with the one rule as I am a perfectionist. And would only post it once I have it down like I want it, plus I do all of my own backup vocals as well. If we can bypass that rule, I would be happy to contribute to this challenge.

ANYONE can make a perfect cover dude. This is about how we do in one take.

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#8 2012-08-01 22:33:57

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Ooo, that's tempting. I have been working on "Take Hold of the Flame"... Now I have a reason to post...

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#9 2012-08-01 22:41:52

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Robert Lunte wrote:

Ooo, that's tempting. I have been working on "Take Hold of the Flame"... Now I have a reason to post...

Awesome!

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#10 2012-08-01 22:46:20

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Keith, I just listened to your tune. Great job Buddy!  Way to step up... !!!  Maybe those onsets and sirens are helping after all!  Great to hear a student get after something like this and "balls" it up the public forum.

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#11 2012-08-01 22:47:50

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Ill give this a try as well... maybe tomorrow... I have to get out of this studio and get some work done on the book... working on big 2.5 updates.

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#12 2012-08-01 22:48:35

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Robert Lunte wrote:

Keith, I just listened to your tune. Great job Buddy!  Way to step up... !!!  Maybe those onsets and sirens are helping after all!  Great to hear a student get after something like this and "balls" it up the public forum.

Thanks Maestro, that means a lot!

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#13 2012-08-01 22:52:28

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".... all along thinking without you"... I think Dante would say, beef up your interarytenoid & vocalis on this in a few parts. The 'contract & release' onsets would really help you to get these M2/head tones beefier at the level they need to be... i would be excited to show you how... it would take about four weeks of working out the musculature, perhaps a bit longer, but in time, you can get this chestier with some things I can show you.

It mostly needs a dampened larynx and stronger anchoring.. but its only a matter of working out the muscles. You can do it... I have been working on this stuff a lot lately and I sang "take hold of the flame" last night the best I ever have in my entire life, I'm not kidding...  I sang it the way I always wanted to since I was 15 years old...

This interarytenoid and vocalis work with onsets and sirens really works great. I've never sounded or felt more 'beefy' in my M2/head tones in my entire career. Im busting through a new level of strength and capability. I hope to share the ideas with my clients soon as I continue to refine the pedagogy around it and update the book with it.

I know, I know... "let's hear it"?   I will, maybe tomorrow or within the week, but can't do it now...

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#14 2012-08-01 23:03:24

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Can't wait I hear it. That song has been my favorate song since the first time I heard it.

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#15 2012-08-01 23:52:00

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I know I posted this in another thread where we derailed into things regarding Queensryche. And I even had a thread for this, one my own.

But I will post it here, for the thread. The song I would like to cover is "Silent Lucidity but I can't get the lowest notes. I may still try it, some day.

However, here is the one I could do.

Recovering from self-induced laryngitis, some wrong intonation here and there, and totally wrong post-recording mixing strategies, here is a typical ronws record.

And yes, the vocal is one take. But I must admit that I had to start several times. The timing to start the first line is a challenge, or, at least, it was for me. I recorded this in 2010.


"I Don't Believe in Love" by Queensryche

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#16 2012-08-01 23:55:33

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ronws wrote:

Recovering from self-induced laryngitis, some wrong intonation here and there, and totally wrong post-recording mixing strategies, here is a typical ronws record.

And yes, the vocal is one take. But I must admit that I had to start several times. The timing to start the first line is a challenge, or, at least, it was for me. I recorded this in 2010.


"I Don't Believe in Love" by Queensryche

http://www.box.com/s/f01abfff3963930ddb4d

This song is mega hard man, gratz for doin it! you made it your own. The recording isn't so bad - don't be so hard on yourself. I would be curious to hear how you would sound on it in 2012!

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#17 2012-08-01 23:59:52

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I know I would sing it slightly differently. And it would sound differently, too, for I have not injured myself, since then.

But I want to hear you do one, Keith. Your voice is a closer match to Geoff, anyway, at least in my ears. Both he and you have gargantuan ranges.


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#18 2012-08-02 00:02:58

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ronws wrote:

I know I would sing it slightly differently. And it would sound differently, too, for I have not injured myself, since then.

But I want to hear you do one, Keith. Your voice is a closer match to Geoff, anyway, at least in my ears. Both he and you have gargantuan ranges.

I did do one. The link is in the first post in this thread lol

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#19 2012-08-02 00:04:03

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Danielformica wrote:

Real good job keith i liked how you get geoffs little nuances. Dont be afraid of the high notes that you got a little light on.  Go through them i think you will find the strength think down dont let go.
awesome job

Thanks Dan :)

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#20 2012-08-02 01:26:57

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I have to admit that I am a 49 year old virgin to bands like Queensryche, Soundgarden, Whitesnake, Judas priest.... I was in a local band playing bass in the 80's. Playing in local honkeytonks. Everyone I knew was more into Lynyrd Skynyrd. I spent today looking up these bands on youtube. I missed out on a lot of good SH.. I will defenately  be checking out more.
    Keith....Ron you guys ROCK!  Keith you can definately do those high parts without going light, and it would kick things up a couple of notches in an already killer cover.
    Ron to me that was Awesome, some words I couldn't understand but I don't think I'm supposed to anyway.


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#21 2012-08-02 02:08:16

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Keith, I feel like an idoit, probably because I am one. I looked back into the thread to see that you started it off with one. Absolutely excellent. And, I noticed at the 5 minute mark or so, you even got some of Tate's cackle in the upper end. Seriously, you really need to put this cover on the next album. And, if you tour down here, and you don't sing that song, live, I will, in fact, climb up on the stage and be an embarrassment until you do so. And if you're guitar player doesn't want to play it, I will bring my own guitar, plug in and play it. Really, you need that song in your set list.

Thanks, M.

Here are the lyrics:

Awoke on impact under surveillance from the camera eye, searching high and low.
A criminal mind found at the scene of the crime. Handcuffed and blind, I didn't do it.

She said she loved me. I guess I never knew
But do we ever really know?
She said she'd meet meet me on the other side.
I knew right then, I'd never find her.

I don't believe in love.
I never have, I never will.
I don't believe in love.
It's never worth the pain that you feel.

No more nightmares, I've seen them all.
From the day I was born, they haunted my every move.
Every opening hand's there to push and shove.
No time for love, doesn't matter.

She made a difference, I guess she had a way
Of making every night seem bright as day.
I walk in shadows, never see the light.
I guess she lied 'cause she never said goodbye.

I don't believe in love. I never have, I never will.
I don't believe in love. I'll just pretend she never was real.
I don't believe in love. I need to forget her face, I see it still.
I don't believe in love. It's never worth the pain that you feel

bridge

No chance for contact, there's no raison d'etre.
My only hope is one day, I'll forget
the pain of knowing what can never be.
With or without love, it's all the same to me.

I don't believe in love. I never have, I never will.
I don't believe in love. I'll just pretend she never was real.
I don't believe in love. I need to forget her face, I see it still.
I don't believe in love. It's never worth the pain that you feel

feel,
pain that you feel,
feel.

(raison d'etre (pronounced rayzon det but the t is soft, almost not spoken, like a cessation of air) is french and roughly means "reason to be.")


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#22 2012-08-03 22:03:56

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I'll get around to doing one, I'm sure.  I do have quite a Tate-ian voice...

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#23 2012-08-04 00:29:51

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Man, I thought there would be more submissions by now. I don't even sound like Tate. But I liked the song so much that I had learned to play on guitar, as well, years ago.

Then, again, Keith, maybe we're the only Queensryche fans here. So many are dead-set on getting "distortion" in their voice that Tate's clean style may simply not be their cup of tea.

Oh well, a toast to us both.


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#24 2012-08-04 00:31:32

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I just realized, we need to get Randy Loran to link in his video. Randy is one of Robert's students and a TVS instructor and after kicking out Geoff Tate, Queensryche should have hired him instead of this Torre guy.

Oops, I think I said that out loud, in my "outside" voice.

And actually, now that I think about it, I think Robert Lunte would knock this one out of the park.

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#25 2012-08-04 01:10:07

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yeah I'm definitely going to get a cover out soon, I've gotta decide which song to pick.  I'm thinking Breaking the Silence, though I'm also leaning toward the Needle Lies...

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#26 2012-08-04 01:33:37

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J, do "Breaking the Silence." I've always wanted to do that one. I would sing it a capella, standing on top of a ladder while terminating junction boxes. My friend, John, and I at work, would trade off on the lyrics.

John is the world's most fanatical Queensryche fan, bar none.


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#27 2012-08-04 07:31:32

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Keith wrote:

Danielformica wrote:

Real good job keith i liked how you get geoffs little nuances. Dont be afraid of the high notes that you got a little light on.  Go through them i think you will find the strength think down dont let go.
awesome job

Thanks Dan :)

Great job Keith!

I have to agree with Dan in regards to singing the pitches with a little more intensity. Don't short change yourself because I know you can do it.

This may help...Work on you speaking voice by making sure you have a nice clear tone with great vocal fold closure. You can practice this by counting to 100 with a loud resonate voice, but make sure you keep the tone staccato. This will directly affect the quality of your tone. As soon as you finish counting you can vocalize on a 3-5 tone scale focusing on keep the notes staccato. You will be able to feel trouble spots a lot earlier in your range than you would if you were to sing legato. As soon as you get to a spot where you feel like you need to break, bridge, or blend don't do it! Just focus on keeping the vowel short and connected.

If you cannot keep it connected do not move to the next pitch because you will only be selling yourself short by flipping. Good Luck!


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#28 2012-08-04 23:18:22

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Here is mine:

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single … 1&q=hi

I used 2 takes, was not in the mood of listenning to the mid section.

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#29 2012-08-04 23:42:47

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Absolutely astounding, Felipe. One of my favorite QR songs and it is my wife's FAVORITE QR song. (Ballads always get the chicks.)

Well done.

Edited to add: I had my wife listen to it. Her words "That guy is awesome."

She is the real litmus test. She doesn't know or care about curbing, twang, CT or TA (back in our younger days, TA was short for the Pontiac Trans Am). You are either good or you are not.

And so, you are good.

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#30 2012-08-05 00:48:01

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Awesome man! What I meant by one take is to not go back and fix mistakes. So what you did is what I would call one take in a studio (which is what I do in my spare time) . I'm either engineering or recording people in a studio every other weekend. You did great. Glad you posted. And Ron, I'd love to find a "Breaking the Silence" backing track . That is a killer sOng!

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#31 2012-08-05 01:03:52

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Awesome man! What I meant by one take is to not go back and fix mistakes. So what you did is what I would call one take in a studio (which is what I do in my spare time) . I'm either engineering or recording people in a studio every other weekend. You did great. Glad you posted. And Ron, I'd love to find a "Breaking the Silence" backing track . That is a killer sOng!

It's been a few years since I sang that song but if you can find it, I will take a stab at it. Of course, I remember the chorus. Who doesn't? :)


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#32 2012-08-05 01:51:18

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Today , my band played eyes of a stranger (dropped a half step) and I hit all the notes. Some powerful, some not. We were messing aroUnd cause I'm back to playing bass / so I purchased a wireless headset mic. In a few months maybe I could sing it. I hope anyway .

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#33 2012-08-05 02:08:07

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I like that song, too, and I bet you nailed it just beautifully, too.

It would be great to hear you sing it in whatever key you chose. A beautiful voice is beautiful, regardless of the part of the range the vocal line falls in.


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#34 2012-08-05 02:17:45

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I dont have that backing track lol

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#35 2012-08-05 23:37:22

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Tnx keith! So, you think this recording quality works? Was kinda concerned.

Tnx rowns, and also tnx for her :). I am also interested on the mic and recording quality. It may become something nice on the future.

Ill listen to your recordings later an let you know guys. Tnx for the feedback!

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#36 2012-08-05 23:40:40

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FelipeCarvalho wrote:

Tnx keith! So, you think this recording quality works? Was kinda concerned.

Tnx rowns, and also tnx for her :). I am also interested on the mic and recording quality. It may become something nice on the future.

Ill listen to your recordings later an let you know guys. Tnx for the feedback!

What bit rate are you recording at?

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#37 2012-08-06 00:15:03

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16 48khz

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#38 2012-08-06 00:21:37

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16 48khz

Thats fine. Once you mix down into MP3, it really doesn't matter much anyway lol.

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#39 2012-08-06 00:36:04

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Yep. The main problem doing this was noise. Ill do a few more tests, but the main difference is that im using a cheap internet call headset plugged directly on the stock soundboard. Im tampering with noise reduction in order to make it usefull and maybe make a poors man guide to track vocals on the future.

If it works, it would be a great tool I think.

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#40 2012-08-06 00:48:18

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I imagine that you are losing some key elements of your voice recording that way.. There are several really cheap interfaces out there that will solve that issue.

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#41 2012-08-06 23:23:28

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Mine is set at 32 bit float and 44.1 kHz sample rate.


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#42 2012-08-07 03:03:02

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Come on peeps, let's get more Queensryche covers posted up in here! Bob, I know you got one in ya! Robert ? Izzy? Everyone lol

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#43 2012-08-07 16:44:41

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Keith wrote:

Come on peeps, let's get more Queensryche covers posted up in here! Bob, I know you got one in ya! Robert ? Izzy? Everyone lol

Cool I will do a cover asap! Just know I come from an R&B/Gospel background, but I will do my best to get the feel/capture this style of music. :)

Hopefully I will post something by the end of the week.


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#44 2012-08-08 00:57:10

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Iz, I have heard some of your range and you could cover a QR song. Whether you sound like a memorex copy of Geoff or not. Who cares? I don't.

So, put an R & B spin on it. I don't sound like Geoff and I did one. Actually, I used that song to help heal my voice.

So, get crackin' .


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#45 2012-08-08 02:51:43

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Keith listenning to the song right now. First I have to say that I really like this BT, and I would appreciate if you could mail me a copy :).

Now, on your singing.

Man, the beginning is almost perfect, until the higher section, your voice is sounding much more natural than on other recordings, much more defined and pleasant to hear than before. There is just a little mistake on the beginning where one note kinda wobbles, if you could fix that, it would improve the whole track a lot.

I would also take care with that darkening that I know Geoff Tate used a lot, I had the feeling that you overused it after hearing it. I think that one time at the beginning and at the middle, on strategic spots, and taking care to not drawn the other vowels in the darkness would work best. This is an interpretative choice, so there is no right or wrong, but its how it felt to me.

The higher notes, I gotta be sincere with you, are not working. But the falsetto is comming more natural, it sounds pleasant, it just does not fit the song. As you ajust more and more all aspects of your voice, I think you will gradually get the hang of it.

This is a very hard song... Geoff Tate can not be human :P. The work of dinamics on these higher sections is something on a class of his own.

Nice job on the lower parts, on the higher range, since I understand are studying already, its a matter of time.
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#46 2012-08-08 05:27:16

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ronws wrote:

Iz, I have heard some of your range and you could cover a QR song. Whether you sound like a memorex copy of Geoff or not. Who cares? I don't.

So, put an R & B spin on it. I don't sound like Geoff and I did one. Actually, I used that song to help heal my voice.

So, get crackin' .

Okay Brother Ron I appreciate the encouragement :)

I will get on it asap! Can anyone send me the instrumental?


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#47 2012-08-08 08:15:59

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I do believe I will join in the festivities.


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#48 2012-08-08 12:04:51

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Izzle - which track do you want? Send me an email at keith_goehner@yahoo.com, and ill respond with it (assuming I have it anyway lol)

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#49 2012-08-08 19:35:36

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Keith wrote:

Izzle - which track do you want? Send me an email at keith_goehner@yahoo.com, and ill respond with it (assuming I have it anyway lol)

I am listening to a few choices now. I will let you know which ones I like the most :-)
Thanks in advance.


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#50 2012-08-08 20:31:03

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Eyes of a Stranger or Silent Lucidity are my choices right now. Do any of you have any suggestions?


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