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#51 2011-09-21 02:02:18

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Couldn't post a recording of my voice, just too shy. It's not that I don't have confidence, though ! I think the problem might be that my recorded voice sounds to high to me. Not sure what could be causing that or what to do about it ! ! Should I try lowering my pitch slightly ?

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#52 2011-09-21 04:51:32

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

ronws wrote:

This is so important that I wish it was a sticky post. I know it will get lost...

ronws:  go to the 'suggestions for improvement' page, and ask for a 'personal sticky' option for the site.  When you find a post that rings your bell, just click on it, and it gets added (thread and post) to your own personal 'faves' list... or something like that.


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#53 2011-09-21 09:29:35

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

amanda32 wrote:

Couldn't post a recording of my voice, just too shy. It's not that I don't have confidence, though ! I think the problem might be that my recorded voice sounds to high to me. Not sure what could be causing that or what to do about it ! ! Should I try lowering my pitch slightly ?

This forum is notorious for being almost TOO nice to people when they post clips of themselves singing. So just go ahead. You've got nothing to lose except the possibility of becoming much better singer and adored for your voice.

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#54 2011-09-21 19:39:34

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Ok ! Thanks for the advice !

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#55 2011-09-21 20:11:05

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Here's a clip of me singing ! You'll want to turn the volume down because it's pretty loud ! Please excuse any wrong notes, Thanks !

http://kiwi6.com/file/l78yklmg41

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#56 2011-09-21 20:52:50

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

amanda32 wrote:

Here's a clip of me singing ! You'll want to turn the volume down because it's pretty loud ! Please excuse any wrong notes, Thanks !

http://kiwi6.com/file/l78yklmg41

amanda,

may i make a suggestion? i'm just a singer, but rather than singing accapella, perhaps you might want to try it again singing to a karaoke track or over a recording. here's one for you.

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#57 2011-09-21 22:09:40

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

I want to do that but I can't find a program that will let me overdub my voice ! Do you know of any ? The program would have to be free because I can't afford to pay for one !

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#58 2011-09-21 22:56:36

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Never mind, I found one !

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#59 2011-09-22 00:00:57

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

amanda32 wrote:

Here's a clip of me singing ! You'll want to turn the volume down because it's pretty loud ! Please excuse any wrong notes, Thanks !

http://kiwi6.com/file/l78yklmg41

I couldn't open the file?

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#60 2011-09-22 00:36:21

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

This was the best I could do ! Still don't know how to overdub !   http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/r180042a4 … o_mars.mp3

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#61 2011-09-23 20:19:20

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Ok ! Figured out how to overdub my voice using Audacity ! Again, you'll probably want to turn the volume down !   Wish I could have reduced the volume of my voice. Guess this way it's easier to hear my voice, though ! http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/w7ziyzs6x … o_mars.mp3

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#62 2011-09-24 00:59:17

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

First off, you passed the biggest hurdle. You let people, such as us, hear you sing. That takes some backbone. Bravo.

Second, you might back away from the mic a little and I don't say that just to get rid of the pops of the p's and b's. I think being too close to the mic, you are holding yourself back and robbing yourself of the air you need to support the note.

You hit the some good pitches, especially the high ones.

I think you are being thrown off a little because you have a track that includes the original vocal line. Not only does that throw your voice off because you can't help trying to sound exactly like the original singer, but you end up slipping on the timing because you are listening to that performance which makes your own timing late.

There are free youtube rippers you can download. Then, go to youtube and type in grenade karaoke. That way, you sing this in your own voice, with your own inflections and grace notes. Use the youtube ripper to save such a copy. In a search engine like Google or Bing, type youtube to mp3 converter.

By the way, I use Audacity and it's a really decent program for being free.

Also, remember, your voice is not in your throat. It is in your head. All you have in the throat is a sound maker. The words, tone, and resonance happen above that.

And welcome to this forum. Every single person here is expecting you to do well, as you will do well.


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#63 2011-09-24 08:44:35

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

amanda32 wrote:

Ok ! Figured out how to overdub my voice using Audacity ! Again, you'll probably want to turn the volume down !   Wish I could have reduced the volume of my voice. Guess this way it's easier to hear my voice, though ! http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/w7ziyzs6x … o_mars.mp3

Cool, thanks for the clip. I think you have good potential. But it sounds like you are a bit afraid of letting your voice be heard. Don't worry, a lot of people are. What you could do it try to first sing the song with a smile, happy thoughts and simply SHOUT out the song in its entirety. Then, when you're comfortable with that, lower the volume and intensity a bit to better fit the song. This is just a trick to get your voice a bit OUT more.

You're a bit off pitch, which is most likely due to tension in your breath support and neck. I don't think that it's your ear that's the problem and that just can't hear the pitches correctly, but rather those tensions. You should see if you can sing just a SINGLE, sustained note for a few seconds, and have it dead on pitch (maybe hit a piano key for reference). My guess is that you need a bit of work on that and basic breath management. It's actually pretty hard to help people FAST on a vocal forum. It's only really possible (slightly possible) to do so pretty slow, because the interchange between you and us will obviously be much slower than if you had a vocal coach. You should ask yourself if it isn't simply worth it to save some money for a vocal coach in the near future. But note that there are both good and bad vocal coaches out there. Choose one that seems to connect well with you and your thoughts about singing. You can do it! :) Cheers.

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#64 2011-09-24 13:29:55

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Amanda, in addition to what jonpall has said, I remember that one of your first questions was that maybe your voice was too high. I don't know if you meant sharp in pitchiness or simply a high range that you thought should be lowered.

First off, it would be non-productive to type your voice before you try some different exercises but there is nothing wrong with having a naturally high range. First, you work where you are strongest. This builds success and some good habits. And then, work on the weak areas. For you, the lower range might be the problem area and there are techniques for that. In fact, most singer training for women is not about going higher but going lower.

But like I was saying, back away from the mic a little and give it some "oomph". I think jonpall is right, the tension that could be heard is from holding back too much. Let it go, and remember, you should feel no strain in the throat.


"I've been to the edge. You know, I stood and looked down" - David Lee Roth

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#65 2011-09-24 22:32:23

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Yes, I guess I did mean sharp. I'll try backing away from the mike. Even though I'm using headphones that have a microphone !

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#66 2011-09-24 22:34:45

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Thank you for your advice !

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#67 2011-09-25 00:09:37

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/4su0hi8u0 … _by_me.wav Let me know if the link works or not ! Thanks ! Sorry the audio tracks are out of sync !

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#68 2011-09-25 00:45:11

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

I listened to some of it and, at times, you are on pitch in the key, though you are leading by an entire phrase. First off, pitch recognition.

There are free on line piano tone generators. Pick a note, C4, E4, I don't care. Play that tone a few times. Give it a color or a name. Call C4 apple or kiwi bird, I don't care. Then equal F4 to the Port of Christchurch. Then, equal G4 to the tattoo of a Maori. Call C5 the North Island.

Point being, you are not visualizing the note you are wanting to sing. Once you have a mental picture of the note, you won't get lost again.

And while you are at it, smile just a little. The muscles that you use to smile raise and move the soft palate, which will allow the notes to resonate where they need to be.

I like your taste in music.


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#69 2011-09-25 02:29:13

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Ok, I'll try that ! Thanks !

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#70 2011-09-28 23:14:58

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

I think I need to record myself singing into a real microphone not computer headphones with a mic in order for my recorded voice to sound good to me ! I don't have a mic ! So, it could take awhile. I'll just have to wait and see I guess. I'll figure something out one of these days !

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#71 2011-09-29 00:08:07

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

The Music Store (based in Germany) has the FAme CM-1 condenser-type studio mic for about $23 USD. The USB interface one needs could be had for any price.

But I started with a cheapie desk mic that cost $14 USD.


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#72 2011-09-29 01:23:59

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Yes, I guess I did mean sharp. I'll try backing away from the mike. Even though I'm using headphones that have a microphone !

Been there, done that :)
Yes it's a big hindrance. I now have a (very cheap) microphone. It's not overloading half the time and all those annoying things the mic headphones did, plus you can move it around, and it looks cooler. It's a lot better. If you can afford it, you won't look back in anger.


Why aren't days 32 hours long ? <_<

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#73 2011-09-29 03:12:28

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Hmm, how muck is it ? Might consider the other one too ! Thanks !

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#74 2011-10-11 22:00:49

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Re: Chest Voice, Mixed Voice, Head Voice

Here's another recording of me singing along to The Lazy Song By Bruno Mars. lol Not bad, this time, compared to my other attempts !
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/pc7asql7y … o_mars.mp3

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