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#1 2014-12-02 17:25:37

Hanalei
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When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

WHen I start singing, the low notes are stronger.  As I get into it, I can start getting up to the higher notes.  And as soon as I do that, all of a sudden I can't reach those low notes anymore.  For example, where I can usually hit down to a C3, once I start hitting up around or past C5, I can't hit anything lower than maybe a G3.  My voice just disappears.  Is that something that will get better with time or am I doing something wrong?  I think it's always been like that, though, even when I was taking voice lessons.

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#2 2014-12-02 17:51:19

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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

The same thing happens to me. What happens Is your voice is more frogy and lazy in the morning so low notes come easy. When you start warming up and training high notes through out the day your no longer in that breathy fry type state. To sing lower notes when warmed up take a bigger breath. low notes require more air then high notes. its the difference between a tuba and a flute. On the other hand this could just be because of bad technique

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#3 2014-12-06 05:05:09

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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

It sounds like you are staying in your head voice config. Mostly ct and not much on the ta. I had to break that nasty habit when i broke from the classical field, as almost everything there stays in head or covered head. Makes me totally forget about the warm baritone ish sound that the chest holds. Anyways, one little thing i do if i get stuck in head mode. I use the sing through a straw, sometimes in a straw through water. For some reason that always snaps my chest register back in. This may not work for everyone i am sure, i have other things that work too. But the straw thing for me is always the easiest and quickest.

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#4 2014-12-06 05:31:43

Robert Lunte
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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

MIR, if the straw semi-occluded phonation works for you, have you tried resonant tracking through the nasal consonant /ng/?  You might experience a similar success if you tried this.

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#5 2014-12-06 06:14:31

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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

Yes i have friend, and that is another exercise I do at times. I think I like the straw better just because it is fixed. It seems to always help equal me out if i feel a bit out of balance before a performance. However, I have used the ng many times as well, and it surely has provided positive results. I also know the straw exercise can get me into trouble if i start having fun blowing to much air, and not remembering to apply chord closure. But when i focus on fold closure, it really helps me. By the way robert, speaking of the devil. Your damn song "blue rain" has been stuck in my head for the last 3 weeks, i even sung it a couple times to try to get it out lol. But nope just keep humming it at random times lol.

Oh and p.s. i have never tried your version of the ng exercise, i could get alot from it i dunno. Just at 110 an hour, just a tad too high for me i dunno. As i usually like to at least aim for two hours a week. I mean i can swing it at this point of my life, just alot of obligation i have been back and forth if its worth giving it a try. I suppose i got spoiled with my last arrangement. My old teacher charged 100 an hour, and he had alot of positive things to back up his methodology. He has had pretty big roles quite a few times as of late classical, as well as sings very difficult jazz for different events that blows my mind how much technical level is in it. I suppose i just got spoiled, i was always able to offset my lessons with him to an extend. Gave him piano lessons, gave some of his students guitar, drums, bass or violin lessons. Was always able to wheel and deal to help out with total cost. However, i am also willing to do anything it takes to help vocally or anything musically. So its been a back and forth mentally of what to do.

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#6 2014-12-06 06:23:18

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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

Oh and please dont read into that, as me saying you arent worth 110 an hour. I know alot of teachers charge alot more and give a lot less. As i said on my first post here, you do seem like you care. My considerations are financial concerned only.

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#7 2014-12-06 07:17:26

Robert Lunte
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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

No problem MIR, actually $110 is not that much considering what some of my colleagues are asking for... Also, remember, don't shop on price, shop for value...

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#8 2014-12-06 07:23:08

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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

hey guys the thing is here is most of you are probably concentrating on the high notes for some time..;) am i right ? think about it...what happens is the voice gets sort of a mixed registration, not mixed voice but what i mean is the chest voice gets confused where it truly belongs by itsself (below say c4) so its to mixed on where it needs to stand alone.

quick fix practice a lot of ah(as in cat) from Bb3 down as low as you can go let it fry easy and naturally this should help


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Disclaimer-Anything I write or try to help people with on here are techniques and things that have worked for ME.  They are not necessarily" right" or "wrong" but have worked for ME and my 20+ yrs as a professional working
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#9 2014-12-06 07:34:33

m.i.r.
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Re: When I sing high notes, I can't get back down to lower notes

Robert Lunte wrote:

No problem MIR, actually $110 is not that much considering what some of my colleagues are asking for... Also, remember, don't shop on price, shop for value...

Robert I know, that is why i wanted to make sure and state my disclaimer. I never shop on price alone believe me, once again that is why i stated my disclaimer lol. I have already went from rags to riches all the way to homeless once before in my life ha, so i know how quick it goes in a blink of an eye. So now that I rebuilt again and sitting pretty decent, my purse strings are twice as tight, as well as now having two boys that rely on me. I know it will be worth it with the right person, and i know i will end up doing it. But anywhere for 700-1000 a month is still 700-1000 a month, so still alot of consideration from what i stated above.

And daniel great comment and advice. Just ask a trained opera singer to sing something for you in a chesty tone, it will throw them for a loop. I promise it will be difficult, or they may not even be able to do it. Same goes for someone whom spends their entire efforts at the high end. I think that is one of the things you stand for if i remember from a post at one point. Always working to keep a balance?

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